Meet Matt & Nash
A dad. His son. And hundreds of hours of conversation they'll both look back on someday.
Matt Haverkamp
Matt has been the kid in the Redskins jersey his whole life. Now he's raising a sports-obsessed kid of his own.
He started He Said, Son Said thinking he was making a sports podcast with his son, Nash. A few dozen conversations later, he realized they were building something much more important: a reason to stay curious about each other, keep talking, and keep showing up during one of the most formative seasons of both of their lives.
Nash Haverkamp
Nash is a teenager, which means he's usually the most honest person in the room. He asks the questions his dad doesn't see coming, notices things adults sometimes miss, and says what he actually thinks.
That's not a bug — it's the whole point.
He Said, Son Said works because Nash brings something you can't manufacture: curiosity, honesty, and a perspective that reminds the adults in the room to see things a little differently.